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andysamba
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: IRS |
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just wondering if someone has the answer to this weird occurance.?
im fitting 924 steel rear trailing arms on my 67 split , when in correct position the rear wheel sits 3/4 the way back in the wheel arch. this looks mega weird,anyone had this prob?.
its not now such a problem as ive cut 1 1/2" out the arm to bring it to the center of the wheel arch,which has worked out well.
is this normal? or can someone shed some light on the issue?.
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Kai
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Andy, are you refuring to the spring plate? Not the A arm with the connected for the shock absorber.
I'm no expert but I think the porsche spring plates are longer and arn't usually used. Makes sense as to why it's sitting much further back then it should be.
What length are your spring plates at now? I'm curious as I have some type three spring plates left over and I'm interested to know how they compare.
By the way many thanks for the hoses. They where just what I was after, big big help.
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If you are referring to the spring plates then yes these do need to be trimmed and new holes drilled... I have slotted mine to give me some adjustment so I can get the tracking right.
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Kai
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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You can always go for adjustable ones 
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andysamba
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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hi kai
im afraid i sold the spring plates about 6 months ago so have no referance to the lenth of original .was just hoping 924 arms would put the wheel in the middle of the wheel arch.using hydralic handbrake so cable lenth no problem.
as for spring plates im in the process at moment [very simular to red 9 design] useing a 25mm stainless rod end! securerd by 1 bolt /lock nut through middle,with homemade spring plate.
coilover is going on the very end of arm[ hub]which i think will give much better damping.
glad you got your bits
im also useing scooby turbo header tank and need to know how to plumb it!.keeping a eye on your thread. |
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| btw hydraulic handbrake is illegal for road use. |
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Kai
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| RobScott wrote: | | btw hydraulic handbrake is illegal for road use. |
I've hears this somewhere too, I believe it's something to do with the fluid cooling down and releaseing the brake as the fluid contracts. My 08 merc has an electric hand brake, I imagine it's a solinoid activating a mechanism on the rear axle
@ Andy,
Do you know what length your current spring plates are at? I ask as I know the type three spring splates are much shorter then beetle/bus spring plates. I wanted to compare them to what you have. Only out of couriosity.
Uniball joints, now j know this is a touchy subject so I'm not going to point my finger at anybody or name names but after doing my research in them I found that it's a much better design to have the double plates supporting the rose joint as opposed to a single plate. So that's what I went for when buying mine. If your making them yourself it wouldn't be much work to ad an additional plate to the outer side. But then that depends if you feel you really need them. It was pointed out to me that the extra load from the outer plate was undesirable for the four bolts holding them in but the plates I went for are race proven and are being used to this day.
The header thread I wish was making more progress. I'm currently atthis stage and I'm not making any progress with it. Although I'm getting the Internet at home today so I'll be able to spend some more time figureing it out.
Worst thing about it is i know it's simplier then it seams 
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andysamba
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| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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going back to hydralic handbrake.. ..
ive researched this in detail. very hard information to find you will find it on the m.o.t regulations. the m.o.t /vosa rules state pre 1968 are able to use a hydro handbrake as long as it is on a seperate system ie its own caliper,brake lines.
i have also been to a vosa inspection station and spoke to a inspector who looked it up and nodded ok.
i realise with long periods of being on, seals will weep,so will use it solely for m.o.t.s and leave it off and in gear when parked.
not ideal but maintanace free and i dont need any cables.
yippee!
the uniball/tie rod end i am useing for my adjustable springplates will support 20tons+ the ones im using are "huge" so should last a very long time with a 1"ht bolt/locknut it should support a jcb digger.
when i have time will post pics. |
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it will defo fail the mot if the inspector notices  i have seen people use fake cables on rally cars that move when the hydraulic handbrake lever is pulled on to trick the mot tester 
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andysamba
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| Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding the use of a hydraulic handbrake, here are the m.o.t regs. See text in bold/ underlined (taken from UKMOT.com):
3.1 Parking Brake
Information Method of Inspection Reason for rejection
Types of parking brake mechanism
In this sub-section, it is assumed that the parking brake is applied by a hand lever.
For vehicles with foot-operated parking brakes the “Method of Inspection” detailed will need to be varied for the particular mechanism.
1. Check that the vehicle has a parking brake designed to prevent at least two wheels from turning, or with a three-wheeled vehicle, at least one wheel from turning
1. The vehicle does not have a parking brake designed to prevent at least two wheels from turning with a three-wheeled vehicle, at least one wheel from turning
2. Check the method of operation 2. For vehicles first used on or after 1 January 1968 the parking brake is not capable of being maintained in operation by direct mechanical action only. |
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