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'72 Bay - Ford powered - Pinto coming out, Zetec going in.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: '72 Bay - Ford powered - Pinto coming out, Zetec going in. Reply with quote

Hi thought it was about time I put a couple of pics of my Bay on the site.

Just a introduction really can't see much progress happening over the next month but after that I'll have no excuse so there should be regular updates.

I've got the adapter plate to fit a ford engine in the van but got a fair old bit of the dreaded rot to deal with first.

This is the workshop - mates mini in the foreground.


Heres a pic of the van - not the best (but then nors the van at the mo)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent - a dormy too.....the best conversions Wink dithc the roof bunks its only 4 bolts and the weigh an absolute ton adn are virtually useless!! (unless you have kids) mine have been put in storage as you can very easily re-install. LEss wieght= more power, less weight in theroof= better handling for what itse worth!!

looking forward to your progress.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think it was a dormy to begin with, I think it was a microbus - it was definately a tintop. I agree that the dormy is the best conversion looks wise - (the westfaila pips it if serious camping practicality is your thing i reckon)

Whoever put the roof on has put it on right in the middle of the van rather than further forward like they are supposed to be. It looks rubish and I can't fit a roof rack on the back so I'm moving it forwards. I know it looks right in the pics but thats because the roof is already off, the bunks are off and staying off - I couldn't believe how heavy the are either.

Can't wait to get cracking as soon as my mini - which so rudely interupted my flow - is finished.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: mORE vwford Reply with quote

I dont believe it another VWFORD amungst us-I think that there is 5 of us now on this forum! What engine are you going to plum in, Petrol/Diesel, turbo/Non Turbo?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ford is the 'Popular' choice Grin.. ok I'll get my coat.

I'll have to get some more stickers made for you guys..


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dont believe it another VWFORD amungst us-I think that there is 5 of us now on this forum! What engine are you going to plum in, Petrol/Diesel, turbo/Non Turbo?


Not sure on the engine choice as yet, depends what comes along at the right price in the right nic. It'll be my daily when its done so I will need a bit of poke.

Plan was always for a TD but I'm still a bit worried about gear ratios on the 1600 gearbox. Also I wouldn't want to be on boost at 70/80 really. so thinking of a petrol engine - at least if your pulling 4000 at 70/80 you've still got another 2-3000 to go if needs be. In a diesel I'd nearly be on the redline.

On the other hand diesel would be more frugal!

My dad has got a 200 BHP 2 litre 16v RS2000 engine with a 2.3 litre block, gas flowed head (and I think fast road cams) and twin 45 webers in the garage at the moment. Its just come out of his morgan - only problem is he wants to sell it with the cossie box and all the parts to do the morgan conversion.

Maybe I should sabotage his sales untill he gets racked off and lets me have it!! Grin

Love the sticker.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you've probably seen in other topics (thought I'd better get the info back in my project thread) my dad saw an engine on ebay with 2 mins left to go - no time to ask me or do any checking - so bought it on an impulse.

Here is said engine


It'd be nice to open the engine lid and see this:


If it would work I thing it would make for an awsome conversion, however after chatting with some people who are doing the wiring on his own ford V6 (into Morgan) conversion (who are experts in the duratech V6) he informs me it definately will not go in without some major major alterations. Not being one to admit defeat on someone elses say, I took a couple of hours off my mini project to do some measuring - and if I want this project done before I retire I think a different engine is goin to be required.

See what you think!


If any one has any bright ideas as to a solution - it'd be much appriciated as I'd love to get this engine in!!

If not its going back on fleabay and I'm going to start work on plan B - fit a 3.0 Essex V6 (as well as trying to decide on a plan C just in case ha)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you know that there are electric water pumps that could? be used, then you could just blank of cam?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a good idea, 1 down - several others to go.

I'll try and come up with a list over everything that is protruding - and see if you can solve all of them for me. LOL

Seriously there are loads of bits protruding. I do believe anything is possible given enough time, money and effort. However whilst I can spare the effort - I just don't have the time or cash really. I mean even those electric water pumps cost around 100 - if it cost me a similar figure to get round every problem I'd be bankrupt LOL.

I think it'd be more realistic for me to alter the bodywork etc to allow space to fit it as it is but again this is very time consuming - and I'm assuming will require a specialist petrol tank as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to clarify (pics not to clear) the problem is that the engines too long yes? and that you intend to move the engine back to wards the front of the van (and g-box too) to get it under the lid?


or is the problem that theres stuff at the gearbox end that overhangs the box and fouls on the box?

I would remodel the rear end myself - losse the x-member and remount it higher or further back. Early bays dont even have these so they cant be that critical!! still I would defo replace with a better located one.

Fuel tank - well I had a similar problem beofre i settled form y hybrid VW/subaru tank - things you may wnat to consider - alternative cheap tanks which are a bit smaller - I was thinking about a polo tank these are only 30 new and similar shape!! but capacity could be annoying. The other alternative was to mount the tank underneath - obviously youd need a thin flat tank but theres prob one out there or you may be able to build it into the space under the back seat too (exteranlly vented and sealed of course.

If youve got to move the box forward a lot you may have to consider some serious mods to the torsion tube! which would be impractical - hoever there is scope to move the box a bit but be carefull to not overstretch the capabilites of the CVs and rememebr to shorten your shift rod!! I guess you could also use a shorter box - perhaps a beetle box?

anyway that might give you some hope - nothings impossible!!Does you adaptor fit this engine by the wya?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Rich - it has given me a bit of hope!

The engine is not too long. The problem is there is a load of stuff that hangs over the gearbox which would foul on the bulkhead and cross member, by which I mean the the bit with holes in that the gearbox is mounted to sorry but thats the best way to describe it.

Basically I need to move the front of the engine bay (above the gearbox) forward about 8 inches. The gearbox needs to stay where it is.

I havn't split the engine and box as yet, so not sure about the adapter. I think this is the deciding factor, if it fits the adapter I wouldn't mind so much about having to remodel the back end.

I definately don't want to be doing both - I'd like it to be done by next summer (probably a bit optimistic as it is) also they are developing the farm buildings where my garage is so I could be a bit limited there. Probably only going to be good for a year or so - I've got absolutly no where else to keep it (unless its on the road) and I really do not want to get caught out.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steamo wrote:
cross member, by which I mean the the bit with holes in that the gearbox is mounted to sorry but thats the best way to describe it.


You can bin that bit Grin that's the bit early bays don't have.
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