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Neil-C Jedi Knight


Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 192
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: 66 Split/bay Brake upgrade |
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I have at last got my brake upgrade together, with mixed results.
The fronts have 312 vented disks and Audi TT floating calipers, courtesy of Dave at Futbus.
The rears are 288 solid disks and Golf type calipers on home made brackets.
Got it finished yesterday and as the MOT had expired whilst off the road, took it for its test.It did pass, but only just! The rear brakes only just made the minimum requirement efficiency. Not what I had in mind.
As its all new and nothing is binding I am wondering if the master cylinder is up to the job?
It's a 23 bore 80 stroke but only has a single outlet for the rear. I'm sure there must be a formula to work out what I need, anyone know how.
What master cylinder are those of you running a disk at each corner using?
Any pointers much appreciated, having just got it back on the road, not looking forward to taking it apart again, but the point of the exercise was to get BETTER brakes not just different.
Neil. _________________ 66 Camper with 2.2 Subaru
63 Triumph TR4 with Rover V8 |
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richbaker78 Teacher of Padawans


Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1298
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:27 am Post subject: |
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neil im using a porsche 944 S2 M/C mainly so it was matched to the other componenets i used.
Have you checked the condition of your proportioning valve? (im assuming splits have them?) on bays these do have a habit of gunging up and the ballbearing sticking in one position. i actually ditched mine for a manully adjustable one from a rally car but there are many other and better systems out there in the scrapyard. VW polo ones are nice and compact and can be linked easily to the rear suspension arm. |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 861 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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no proportioning valve on a spilt _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,
previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi |
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Neil-C Jedi Knight


Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 192
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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Had a PM from 13 window deluxe, could be down to a badly adjusted hand brake.
Will check it out over the weekend
Neil. _________________ 66 Camper with 2.2 Subaru
63 Triumph TR4 with Rover V8 |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 861 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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any joy on handbrake? did the cable adjustment make it any better? _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,
previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi |
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Neil-C Jedi Knight


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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Re adjusted the hand brake as caliper levers not back against the stops, but due to a full program of family events, not had a chance to try it out.
Will be giving it a long test run next weekend, of to Vanwest on Sunday. _________________ 66 Camper with 2.2 Subaru
63 Triumph TR4 with Rover V8 |
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Cleverchap Jedi Master


Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 356 Location: Middle of the Midlands
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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My brakes only just made it thru the MOT as well, but after a couple of miles they soon started working properly
I reckon you may nee to scrub the pads in to the disks  |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 861 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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50 miles and they will be mint _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,
previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi |
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Neil-C Jedi Knight


Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 192
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Here are the photo's of the upgraded brakes:
Front: 312 vented disks, Audi TT calipers.
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Rear: 288 solid disks, After market calipers. ( copy of a VW Golf).
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Slightly confusing as the shots are of opposing sides. _________________ 66 Camper with 2.2 Subaru
63 Triumph TR4 with Rover V8 |
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Alex (FTS) Jedi Guardian


Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 992 Location: Falmouth, Cornwall
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice Neal. I've just got some 288mm drilled, vented discs and calipers to match so hope fully I'll get em on this summer! Nice work  _________________ www.faltownskateboards.com |
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13 window deluxe Jedi Guardian


Joined: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 861 Location: chesterfield derbyshire
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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just done the 288mm disks on my t25 last week a big improvement over the standard _________________ 1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,
previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi |
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Neil-C Jedi Knight


Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 192
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Round trip of 250 miles this weekend with a trip down to VanWest, van ran well, brakes now seem to be working much better and sun all the way.  _________________ 66 Camper with 2.2 Subaru
63 Triumph TR4 with Rover V8 |
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